Coffee with the Caps, Friday December 12

Good Friday morning, Caps fans. I hope you’re all having a lovely week and that you’re gearing up for a festive weekend and a well-deserved rest.

This column was supposed to be about the roster decisions facing the Caps now that they have officially decided which options to pick up for the 2026 season. Well, you’ll get that on Monday instead, as the Caps and the city of Vancouver agreed to blow Daniel Rios’ loan ending out of the water with major stadium news.

If you’re reading this, you’ve almost certainly seen the news, but in case you’re returning from Mars: Vancouver Mayor Ken Sim and Axel Schuster formally inked a memorandum of understanding Thursday, giving the Caps a one-year window to negotiate a lease that would let them build and own a stadium at Hastings Park.

The idea, seemingly, is to have that stadium anchor an entertainment district. It is TBD, but this stadium project could (likely would?) also include the Rise. There has been reported interest from the BC Lions about getting in on the party as well.

The notion of a stadium at PNE (versus the current location of BC Place) has been much debated, but this is unambiguously good news. Sim said the quiet part out loud at the press conference: this arrangement is the only way the Caps are staying in Vancouver given MLS’s current posture, with the league pushing all teams to own their stadiums.

I don’t blame folks who worry about the location and logistics of the proposed stadium site (though I also could see some benefits, particularly if the partnerships with the Rise and/or Lions come to pass). But realistically, this thing ain’t getting fully built out for at least four or five years, and that gives the city and club time to hammer out a solution to move people around. It also seems inevitable that better transit links will reach this area as well.

I’ve yet to see any formal comment from MLS, but one imagines this will be the sort of development that pleases Don Garber et al. The problem, of course, is that the Caps will still have to figure something out at BC Place while the new stadium is being built and PavCo is liable to dig in their heels at this news, understanding that this is likely their last chance to wring any money out of the Caps. Hopefully, MLS would be more comfortable making concessions on a new BC Place lease if there was a clear end date in sight.

The momentum is surely on the side of the Caps, however. Politicians saw the packed crowds that flocked to see playoff and CCC matches this season and can read the room. Popular support is more firmly behind the team than ever, given the season they just had, and that will certainly help convince those in power of the value of the stadium project. The private financing of the stadium itself would also be a boost in smoothing over political hurdles.

There obviously is a long way to go, but this could be a massive step, both for the sustainability of the franchise and the development of soccer in the region. Now all that everyone in power has to do is not screw it up.

Shameless Self Promotion

If you’d rather focus on the on-field product, Caleb runs down who the Caps might be looking to cash in on this offseason.

Best of the Rest

More on what the Hastings Park project could look like — assuming it gets off the ground.

Tom Bogert is reporting that the Caps are fielding calls on a host of players — but with no concrete plans to sell at the moment.

The Caps will take on Costa Rican side Cartagines in the first round of the CONCACAF Champions Cup, with Seattle Sounders waiting in the wings.

A nice profile on Vancouver FC, who will take on Cruz Azul in the first round of CCC in the biggest moment in the club’s history.

Congrats to Ali Ahmed, who is up for Canadian men’s player of the year.

12 thoughts on “Coffee with the Caps, Friday December 12

  1. Is MLS a good investment?………

    ⚽ MLS Revenue Model
    MLS uses a single-entity structure: the league centrally owns all teams.

    A percentage of each team’s income is taken by the league.

    Revenue-sharing includes national broadcast rights and sponsorships, which are pooled and distributed among clubs.

    Teams must also allocate a portion of ticket sales and player transfer fees back to the league.

    💰 Financial Impact
    This system helps ensure financial stability and allows smaller clubs to compete more effectively.

    Typical MLS club matchday income ranges from $10M to $50M annually, depending on venue size and ticket prices.

    Despite rising valuations, many teams are not profitable—16 of 30 clubs reportedly lost money last year.

  2. Skytrain plans– it will happen by 2030 IMO- the addition of a new Hastings Park plan spurs that on- a new, wider IronWorkers Memorial Bridge could accommodate the Skytrain track- if the City is going to develop Hastings Park as an entertainment hub, there needs to be easy access from the DT

    dailyhive.com/vancouver/north-shore-skytrain-burrard-inlet-rapid-transit-brt-lrt-study

    regarding the news on Glass City about a bandied amount of $770 mill for the Caps, with $270 mill set aside for the stadium and $500 mill to the existing Owners- the new investor group could also see the surrounding City land at Hastings Park as an area to lease and develop, such as businesses and a hotel- so they would lease the stadium- say for 99 years- and surrounding area of the stadium, develop the land and make revenue- this group is more than just a stadium

    from what i was told, the existing owners could even want a share in investing with the new group, as well as others with different amounts to buy into the concept – its like buying shares in a company and receiving dividends when a profit is made

    there is a lot more going on behind what we see- gotta think bigger – Hastings Park and the new Cap rental at BC Place Stadium are just Part 1, 1A

    we will know more in 2026

    Salty

    1. AI SUMMARY!…………..The page is about news concerning the Vancouver Whitecaps (“Caps”) and a proposed $770 million investment package.

      The breakdown of funds mentioned is:

      $270 million allocated for a new stadium.

      $500 million directed to the existing owners.

      A new investor group is being discussed, which could also gain access to surrounding city land at Hastings Park as part of the deal.

      The page itself shows no direct search results for this news item, suggesting the query may be too specific or not yet widely reported.

      So, in short: the article is about a potential $770M deal for the Whitecaps, split between stadium development and owner payouts, with possible land opportunities at Hastings Park.

      Main takeaway: The Vancouver Whitecaps are actively pursuing a new $770 million stadium and entertainment district at Hastings Park, with a formal agreement now in place between the club and the City of Vancouver to explore the project.

      Key Points from Current Reporting
      Memorandum of Understanding (MOU): The City of Vancouver and the Whitecaps signed an MOU in late 2025, giving them an exclusive negotiation period through 2026 to plan a stadium and entertainment district at Hastings Park.

      Funding & Scope: Reports mention a $770 million package, with $270 million earmarked for stadium construction and $500 million directed to current ownership. The deal could also involve redevelopment of surrounding city land at Hastings Park.

      Hastings Racecourse Closure: Hastings Racecourse, the long-standing horse racing venue, has officially closed after 133 years. This opens the site for redevelopment, making way for the Whitecaps’ stadium proposal.

      Potential Benefits:

      A purpose-built soccer stadium would strengthen the Whitecaps’ financial viability and reduce reliance on BC Place.

      The entertainment district could support transit upgrades along Hastings Street, possibly including a SkyTrain extension.

      The project is framed as a world-class sports and cultural destination for Vancouver.

      Current Home at BC Place: The Whitecaps still play at BC Place, which will host seven matches during the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

      Risks & Considerations
      Uncertainty of Financing: While the $770M figure is circulating, details on who funds what portion remain unclear.

      Community Impact: Redevelopment of Hastings Park could raise concerns about public land use, housing, and local amenities.

      Timeline: Negotiations run through 2026, meaning construction is not yet guaranteed.

      In short: The Whitecaps are moving toward a major stadium project at Hastings Park, backed by a $770M plan and a formal agreement with the City. The closure of Hastings Racecourse clears the way, but financing, land use, and community approval will be critical hurdles.

      1. you have outlined it accurately from what i have been told and also stated here

        the community impact will be very, very positive- if you have been to Hastings Park North, you know that it is old, run-down and nothing but concrete- no beauty whatsoever- who wants to go there to enjoy WHAT?? its wasted, ugly-looking land- the community

        a new Enterainment Hub will certainly have beautiful, manicured spaces to enjoy and it will be used beyond a 2 week PNE fair and then be basically idle for 50 weeks

        an existing Owner can decide if he wants to invest with the new investors and stay involved in the Whitecaps and other ventures that i cant divulge at this time because they hinge on the Stadium-Entertainment Hub to kick-start their investment

        the $270 mill investment will provide bank loans to finance the rest of the cost of the Stadium and Entertainment Hub (hotel, businesses, landscaping and maybe a reno to the Agrodome for the Canucks practice facility); the First Nations will be buildiing the casino; what financial part the City plays beyond permits is unknown, but it will be really involved, alongwith the BC Government, in providing transportation and infrastructure

        this will be a great deal for the Whitecaps and its new investors, the City, the Province, transportation involving the North Shore and the surrounding community who will now be able and willing to use that part of Hastings park

        Salty

  3. “Entertainment destination!”…We already half one / just clean it up!……Real turf in the stadium ASAP! …Increase ticket prices by 20%
    ……..consider think how many job losses if moving to PNE?………OR .Good bye MLS!. GOOD BYE WHITECAPS…….HELLO VANCOUVER FC! / ……..How can you expect tax payers to subsidize the Whitecaps with players making millions!..

  4. i nailed this change to Hastings Park 3-4 months ago

    IMO, this will happen by 2029-2030- it will be Skytrain from Waterfront to the North Shore, then to Lonsdale Quay- passing Hastings Park and crossing over the IronWorkers Memorial Bridge- eventually linking up with Brentwood and Metrotown Malls by 2035- they could use the same aerial space over the existing CPR-West Coast Train tracks- the tracks are next to Brighton Park, about 150 metres from Hastings Park; or Skytrain could go down Hastings Street

    Ken Sim, 2022- cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/ken-sim-kennedy-stewart-vancouver-transit-plans-1.6606492

    2024- globalnews.ca/video/10530863/north-shore-skytrain-proposed/

    if you are going to build an Entertainment Hub at Hastings Park (which will happen IMO), you need an easy access from the DT area and across the Lower Mainland

    Part 1 is happening- celebrate

    Part 1A- a new and better lease deal at BC Place Stadium will happen soon as the Caps lease ends this december 31

    Salty

    1. Sorry to put a damper on things but there is almost no chance of skytrain to the area within decades. The region identified a need for rapid transit to UBC in the mid 90s and we still can’t get the final leg built. A stadium alone (even with an entertainment district and new residential housing)is not enough to fast track skytrain to this area (25k occasional visitors to the stadium compared to 60k+ daily visitors to UNC). if you want to know the reason why we don’t have rapid transit to UBC why don’t you ask any non-Vancouver mayor who votes against projects like this at TransLinks mayors council. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate that. This is the lifeline to keep the team in the city, but it will be a transportation headache for a number of decades.

  5. I still wish they would put it where they are supposed to tear down the Viaducts as it’s so central and accessible by transit already. Its also nice to have the city option if you come in for games. I wonder what is going to happen with the stadium. Does it book enough concerts and home shows to make money ? I wish they had of done that original waterfront one. I was thinking today with the endzones open the city on one side the mountains on the other. Wow.

    1. building the Stadium at False Creek North flats will not happen- the City wants a new Entertainment Hub and it will be at Hastings Park, anchored by a new stadium, hotel, businesses, 10K concert amphitheatre and casino, maybe a Canucks practice facility at the Agrodome

      so if both the Caps (100% sure) and the BC Lions (its a maybe) go to the new stadium, what happens to BC Place Stadium? (remember its only 40 games/years, but the revenue is a a good source of cash)

      3 choices:

      1. centre more on trade shows, concerts for the Lower level and reconfigure the upper bowl into businesses or hotel space

      2. get another major tenant into the building

      3. tear it down, sell the land for billions (the old St Pauls has been sold for billions) and have it developed for housing, businesses and park spaces

      the 2 viaducts- Dunsmuir and Georgia are coming down- its the right decision as it will really open up the space from false creek to chinatown and become a magnificent change that should have happened decades ago

      Salty

      1. Almost $700 million of tax dollars was spent on BC Place in recent years. That’s a lot to write off to improve the bottom line of one corporation (while harming the prospects of hundreds of already existing businesses in the area and further depressing the downtown core). Read the “untenable” contract below. By rough calculation looks like less than $4.00 off of every ticket paid the rent.

        https://thebreaker.news/news/whitecaps-bcplace-contract-foi/

        But billionaires gotta billionaire and the team itself is seemingly just a lever to get into property development and management, where the real money apparently is. Ironically, BC Place was pushed through and built with public money because a 35,000 seat stadium in distant East Van was seen as untenable in 1979.

        I see this move as inevitable but personally, after more than a decade of the league’s shittiest turf, I’m not enthusiastic about sharing the new venue with the Lions. Their game is fine on carpet. Please, just say no.

        Many of my old neighbours will look forward to renting their lawns out for parking money. The park space that was promised to us decades ago is a long forgotten afterthought of a long forgotten Neighbourhood Plan. I expect ten to fifteen years of construction and disruption to get this plus transit accomplished so I’m kinda glad to be elsewhere.

        None of that matters of course. Progress marches on and the city is constantly in flux to someone’s cost and someone else’s profit. It’s the good and bad of urban living.

        1. $700 mill are renos for the 2026 World Cup games– the money will come back in bigger amounts as the WC is a major economic boost ; and i agree that the BC Lions should not come to Hastings Park Stadium (they can rent at BC Place or at the Cap Stadium- will it really matter??)- they will cut up the grass for the beautiful game-

          the Park has needed a new look for decades as its nothing but old concrete and old buildings-when the north part is completed, its going to look so much better and be a beacon for the Vancouver area- the Whitecap badge of mountains and seas will be truly back with the new Stadium

          and a transit system from DT- either Skytrain or use of the existing CPR-West Coast Express rails and its trains can be utilized until Skytrain is done crossing a new IronWorkers Memorial Bridge – those CPR tracks are about 150 metres from Hastings Park

          CAPITALISM IS THE ONLY WAY THE STADIUM GETS DONE- GETTING A RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT- ITS ONLY A DIRTY WORD FOR SOCIALISTS AND COMMUNISTS (and look at the countries that have that)–

          GET A VISION OF WHAT IT WILL BE AND WHY WEALTHY INVESTORS WILL COME WITH THE RIGHT DEAL THAT WORKS FOR THEM, THE CAPS AND THE CITY (and it could be more than even that)

          otherwise, GOODBYE WHITECAPS- do you really want that??

          Salty

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